that goes back to the 1940's and truman had a lot to do with that. >> they started to attack truman from the right from not -- for not being tough enough on the communist. what does german do? he falls into the trap. the communist threat become something real in the mind of the american people because you can play on that fear. initially, there were 300 sites that were put on the terrorist watch list. then 400,000. you keep looking and you will find, just like the witch hunters in the middle ages. >> what we essentially need is to cut to the end of this four story -- a strong man, like a martin luther king. you quoted it very courageous speech. he sacrificed his life because of that speech, but a man to stand up and has moral rectitude to say to the public that we must walkout of this valley of fear that we're living in and you cannot leave all this nonsense and we need somebody. when they see a book or a vcr movie or something in this would inspire someone in the next generation. >> it raised the question for me whether the public has become so cynical about our politics, so afraid abou